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| Author: | james longhurst [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:59 pm ] |
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Yeah, those are the 10 drums. They weigh a ton. -James |
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| Author: | Reed [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:15 pm ] |
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Here is the fender tag, transcribed: R11 V5X L2 914 JY9 U G11 G52 H51 NT6 JY9 M2YW 000 423 T83416 E24 034 VL29 C4B 405687 Hopefully that comes through roughly lined up. Thanks! P.S. if anyone is interested in these ten inch drums, drop me a line. They hopefully will be available in a couple weeks. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:27 pm ] |
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V: Valiant range L: Low price/trim class 29: 2-door fastback body (Duster) C: 225 CID 1bbl 6-cylinder engine 4: 1974 model year B: Built at Hamtramck, Michigan 405687: Serial number E24: 225 CID 1bbl 6-cylinder engine D34: Torqueflite 904 transmission T83416 (probaly 183416 or 783416): Vehicle order number 423: Built on April 23, 1974 000: Upper door frame paint (N/A; Dusters don't have upper door frames) M2YW: Bench seat, medium vinyl trim grade, gold/white JY9: Main body paint code, Tahitian Gold Poly (metallic); PPG 2510 JY9: Interior paint code, Tahitian Gold Poly (metallic); PPG 2510 U: Built to US-market specifications G11: Tinted glass, all windows G52: Driver sideview mirror, chrome remote control H51: Integrated heater + A/C NT6: Not a valid code. Probably N76, coolant recovery system R11: Musicmaster AM radio V5X: Bodyside moulding w/protective insert, black L2: #2 assembly line at build plant 914: (inconsequential) |
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| Author: | Reed [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:49 pm ] |
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Cool, thanks Dan. That matches what is on the car. |
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| Author: | radarsonwheels [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Well... |
I have a '73 swinger that came with small upper ball joint and small bolt pattern 10" drums front and back. The 74 should have big bolt pattern big ball joint knuckles but who knows for sure? 73 was supposed to be the change over year. I have the special sockets to turn both size ball joints so if you want to measure the size of the square head on top of the screw in ball joint Id be happy to check them against my tools to let you know which you have. also-I have a set of late a-body (disc) uca's with new moog offset bushings you need em... Kevin |
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| Author: | Reed [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:43 pm ] |
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Kevin- thanks. I have both size upper ball joint sockets, but I might take you up on that offer for the upper control arms with the bushings. Let me get farther along to the point where I can take some careful measurements of the dimensions and geometry of the upper control arms on the car now and compare them to those of a known disc brake UCA. I will know then whether or not I can use the arms I have or not. |
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| Author: | Pierre [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:50 pm ] |
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Quote: I have a '73 swinger that came with small upper ball joint and small bolt pattern 10" drums front and back. The 74 should have big bolt pattern big ball joint knuckles but who knows for sure? 73 was supposed to be the change over year.
73-76 still used SBP for drums I thought?
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| Author: | Reed [ Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:31 pm ] |
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Nope. My brother's 74 has all drums and small bolt pattern, but I have seen 73-74 all drum large bolt pattern cars before too. :shrug: I think after 73 factories were just using up the parts they had in stock on the assembly line. |
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| Author: | Rug_Trucker [ Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:33 am ] |
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My 74 Dart has the 10" drums, SBP |
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| Author: | carpdar [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:32 pm ] |
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I have a bushing question. Would using the old UCA change the footprint of the car? I heard that some people use MOOG offset UCA bushings but others than said it is somewhat mandatory in this swap.. To me that just sounds like a caster adjustment though. I've been interested in doing this but I was going to get Magnumforce racing Tubular UCAs. |
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| Author: | dakight [ Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:02 am ] |
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Offset bushing are used to add camber or caster when the alignment cannot be brought into spec by adjusting the cam bolts. They are also used to add additional caster to make the care more stable. You should use the UCA that goes with the spindle that you're using. It won't change the "footprint" of that car as the primary difference between early and late is the size of the ball joint. The principle dimensions are the same. If you're using the large bolt pattern disk brakes then you need the late model UCA with the large ball joint. |
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| Author: | Joshie225 [ Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:10 am ] |
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Magnumforce upper control arms are made for seriously lowered drag cars so that they can get decent caster and that's all they are good for! If you want upper control arms built for more negative camber and positive caster, which is what most people aim for with offset bushings, go with Firm Feel. |
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